Marc and Madison returned Friday evening from a 10 day youth group trip from church. The name of this trip and the ones taken in the previous years are called faith adventure trips. This years trip jouryned to New York City where we believed the kids (14-18 year olds) would be involved in charity service work of one kind or another. After a 3 day bus ride from North Dakota to NYC, the kids and chaperones disembarked at their 'hostel' which had 2 people per room, with one person on a roll-a-way bed and 2 bathrooms on each floor serving about 30 strangers. GAG!
It quickly became obvious that out of the 6 days spent in NYC, only 3 days had any type of service work involved. Marc figured that including travel time on the subways to reach the soup kitchens, the total amount of time spent in service to others was a mere 5 hours! Now in my world, 5 hours does not constitute substantial community giving. Let along having to travel by bus for 30 hours in each direction to participate in 5 hours of charitable giving. I know first hand that there are several places right here in Bismarck where these kids could put some sweat into serving others!
Lots of things are bothering us about this so called Faith Adventure. First of all, when asked why the prefered method of transportation was by bus, the pastor informed Marc that it was not only cheaper, but allowed for team building exercises to take place in transit...to solidfy the group. COUGH, I call BS on this one. Seems there was actually NO team building exercises that occured in transit at all. Another little thing that annoys me is that while yes, they were in NYC, the over-whelming vast majority of the time was spent sight-seeing. While I do agree that the kids from our church have led narrow lives, with few having traveled anywhere in the USA before and most having never flown on a plane...sad but true....the pastor also wanted to expose these kids to cultural differences. God knows these kids need that. Most of the local kids still look at my kids and call them wooly because of their hair, and ask stupid questions about their skin. At worst, these kids have called my kids the N word and spoken freely at the parsonage about shooting "coons." They've told racist jokes to my kids on previous church outings and joked about how my kids shouldn't be able to swim, but could sure shoot hoops. We've tolerated and tried valiantly to educate the local kids to no avail. Some are quiet in their bigotry and some are blatant, neither of which feels good.
So on this journey, Marc got to witness first hand how the girls bullied Madison. Madison simply aint no shrinkin' violet, for damn sure, but even she can only take so much. Marc watched the girls make fun of her curly hair, listened to them as they told her that the roommate would take the bed and Madison would have to deal with the roll-a-way, and watched as the girls ostracized Madison at Times Square and told her that they would be going off sight-seeing without her. Marc was a good Dad and picked up the slack when all she wanted was to be accepted by narrow-minded, frightened girls. That night at devotions with the group, Marc was asked where he had seen the face of God. He replied, "I know where I DIDN'T see the face of God, and that was in the young girls who have mocked and shunned Madison to the point of tears." One of the girls to whom Marc was referring had a Mom along as a chaperone who instead of acknowledging this issue chose to give both Marc and Madison the cold shoulder for the remainder of the trip and refused to speak to them.
Marc brought this issue up to our pastor who shocked the hell out of us by telling Marc that this is normal girl behavior and he would not comment or talk to the girls since he hadn't seen it himself. He had been told by several people about the bullying, but chose to ignore it and not address it because I believe he(the pastor) too, is a chicken to stand up to the majority to take the cause of the minority. Marc called me from New York to share what our pastor had said, or failed to say, and we both feel that since this is a church trip, not a secular school trip and we both expect these kids from church to behave in a Christian manner. If this is a faith adventure then these kids better step up and bring a Christ like behavior with them, or stay at home.
We are sick feeling about this. To think that our pastor can call this behavior 'Normal girl behavior' is sickening. Since when do we as a church body, lower our standards and condone mean, ignorant behavior? Madison and Thomas experienced bullying in the private Christian school they were in for 3 years and then again in public school. Now as homeschoolers it's odd that my kids are experiencing the most egregious behavior from the people that compose their church family.
Madison came home with a new appreciation of how 'average' young teen girls treat each other. I am glad she is a strong, Strong young girl who can move beyond the slights and insults tossed her way, but it still leaves an invisible scar deep within. Marc and I have tried our best to live our values and morals as an example to our kids. We expect them to respect everyone. They may not like someone, but we still expect them to be civil. How is that our pastor can turn away, shirk his duty to teach and instill Christ like values to those in his charge when he knows this behavior is occuring? To avoid it with the casual thought that this is normal is to perpetuate its cruelty.
I am mad. I am sad and I feel lost in my spiritual journey. I refuse to let one man who happens to wear a collar, destroy my faith in God, but he has destroyed my faith in him and his ability to take a moral stand and correct those who are behaving in a despicable very un-Christ like manner. It's not often that Marc expresses his sadness and vunerability, but when it comes to our kids, that is our weak spot. How can we return to this church knowing our pastor, our shephard of our flock, perceives and condones this behavior as normal and acceptable? This is where we are right now. It's not a good place and it stings.
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That is disgusting and sadly yes many many teenage girls are like that but that does not make it ok or "normal". The standards have to be raised. What happened to setting expectations high?
Madison you are an absolutely beautiful human. You are at a hard age. You have absolutely gorgeous curly hair and the most gorgeous skin. I can't imagine you any other way and I wouldn't want you to be any other way. Your family and your true friends love you as you are. Never EVER let anyone tell you anything different. Take this experience and remember that words and actions really hurt. Don't ever treat anyone the way these students have behaved (not that I can imagine you would) and never let it be ok for someone to treat you this way.
We can't wait to see all your shining faces!! :o) The countdown is on!! :o)
Praying for all of you this a hard place to be! No this is not alright!
I don't care if it is normal girl behavior, As Christians we a held to a higher standard! This man should be ashamed of himself!!
God Bless ,
Rose Anne
Sad, sad, sad state of affairs, Geralyn. I'm so sorry you are hurting and feeling betrayed by your pastor. Happy, happy, happy that your beautiful daughter has the backbone necessary to look at bullies and see them for the weak, sad, scared individuals they are. I agree with his assessment that this is normal teenage behavior; it is. Kids can be mean, there's no denying that, but one expects those on a 'mission trip' to hold themselves and others to a higher standard. I take it you've decided to leave the church? If so, I think you NEED to tell the pastor why. And because you're like our mother and me, if you were to do it face-to-face you'd cry/lose focus/yell or any combination of the three. In your position, I'd write a letter to him explainning the why of your breaking fellowship with the souls under his care. Stress that he may have taken this body of believers from you by his callous inattention to the care and feeding of his people but he'll never be able to take your relationship with God. Finally, because I think, like me, you always one to want the last word, I'd challenge him to read your letter to the congregation and report back to you on actions the group is going to take to change the un-Godly behaviors taught thus far by this pastor.
We may not always agree, Geralyn, (Daddy taught us debate well, didn't he?) but I'll always have your back in situations like this. Shall I visit NoDak and deliver to him some of my high-handed rhetoric? Now I'm on a roll!
Absolutely horrible, as a leader who instructs the kids spiritually, this is revolting. Yes, this is normal behavior for this age, and yes, each one of us is responsible for our actions. However, it is our responsibility to speak out and speak up for people when we see people hurting one another. For a leader to remain silent, sets the example that we don't need to speak up if its inconvenient.
I am so sorry that you guys have had to deal with this. Madison, know that you are beautiful and amazing, and the actions of others reflect on who they are, not who you are. Geralyn, I completely understand your faith crisis. I have been there, many times. Know that God is big enough to carry you through these hard times and make you stronger.
I am so so soooo sorry this happened. We had a very similar experience about two years ago, that certainly did not shake my faith, but did hinder mt support and respect for certain individual, it also made me so very heart sick. Is there anyone else higher in the church that you can go to, make a formal complaint to, have this worked on and out between you and this man that is lacking in Christian behavior an leadership?
Big hugs Mama, so so sorry!
I'm so sorry about your experience with your church. We were at a small church and a larger one and had issues when we had to parent our adopted kids differently. Thank God we left both before my kids went into middle school. This may be normal girl behavior but it's not acceptable. There are some mamas that need to be teaching their daughters better and modeling it at home. (((hugs)))
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